Sunday Times, September 10 2000
They rose from the ashes of the world's hippest band.
But shouldn't Tom Tom Club at last be able to forget
it, asks Dan Cairns
The cartoonist H M Bateman might have titled it
The Man Who Asked Tina Weymouth About David Byrne. Certainly you
could cut the air in the sunlit room at the Portobello hotel in
Notting Hill with a knife. No fewer than three - three - PR honchos
from Tom Tom Club's record company sit in anxious attendance on
a nearby sofa, and the trio's collective intake of breath can be
clearly heard when the question pops out.
Weymouth and her husband, Chris Frantz, the former bassist and drummer
in Talking Heads, are in town to promote the new Tom Tom Club album,
The Good, the Bad and the Funky, their first release for eight years
and a record bursting with more invention, wit and dance-savvy eclecticism
than seems decent - or possible - in a couple both on the cusp of
50 with two teenage children and a farm in New England.
"It's exactly the same," says Weymouth, looking around the hotel
they first visited in 1977, when Talking Heads played the Roundhouse
with the Ramones, "except that we get to stay in a nicer room. The
first time we came here, you had to get on the bed to open the door.
I'd put all the little shampoos in the tub, take a bath first, then
put all my clothes in. They'd all been gobbed on."
"I remember having dinner with John Cale downstairs," adds Frantz.
"It used to be quite the place for musicians."
The Ramones, John Cale - both namechecks are reminders that Weymouth
and Frantz mix with, indeed are part of, New York's royal family
of rock, a select band that stretches back to the Velvet Underground
and includes Blondie, Television, Patti Smith and Richard Hell.
The reference to gobbing is equally evocative, zapping you back
to the days of pogoing, the Sex Pistols attempting to hijack the
Queen's Silver Jubilee, and a band with a song called Psycho Killer
("Qu'est-ce que c'est? Fa-fa-fa-far-far fa-fa-fa far-far").
It is 19 years since Tom Tom Club first pushed the couple into the
limelight occupied almost exclusively up to that point by the Talking
Heads' front man, David Byrne. The Club's singles, Wordy Rappinghood
and Genius of Love, topped the charts, introducing mainstream white
audiences to the rap vernacular and, with the girlie, faux-naif
singing style adopted by Weymouth and her two sisters, injecting
much-needed humour and rhythmic trickery into dance music.
Although much of the new album sounds as though it could have been
recorded at any period during the ensuing years, that should not
be held against them. What Weymouth and Frantz helped instigate,
and continue to finesse, is a cultural polyglotism that celebrates
diversity by appropriating and customising many of its totems. Thus,
reggae, hip-hop, disco, soul and punk are thrown into the blender,
in a process that both borrows from musical disciplines further
out on the fringes and, in the case of Genius of Love, triggered
countless imitations. The song has been sampled by, among others,
Ziggy Marley, Tupac, Puff Daddy, and Mariah Carey on her No 1 hit
Fantasy.
The Good, the Bad and the Funky continues this melting-pot approach,
melding scratch, coasting, African kora and Argentinian jazz in
a highly unlikely but wholly successful confection. And all this
from a smallholding in Connecticut. "We go into New York at least
a couple of times a week," says Frantz. "It's like living in Sussex
over here." And they still visit CBGBs, the club where the then
three-piece Talking Heads, formed by fellow Rhode Island School
of Design graduates Byrne, Weymouth and Frantz, first appeared in
1975. "We go several times a year," says Frantz. "It doesn't have
quite the cachet it used to, but it still has something."
And they still hang out with the same group. "We saw Chris Stein
the other day," says Weymouth. "Yeah," adds her salt-and-pepper-haired
husband, "his hair is kind of white now. But other than that, he's
the same as he ever was." (Hang on, that last phrase sounds familiar.
Oh God, could this be a David Byrne question approaching?) "Other
than that," continues Frantz, "we see Debbie [Harry]. She's remained
a constant friend. And Joey Ramone." "Richard Hell, of course. Patti,
John Cale."
And, uh, David? David Byrne? Ever, like, paint the town red together?
Instantly, the whispering on the adjoining sofa ceases. The publicists'
eyebrows engage in a frantic semaphore. Do they know something I
don't? "We still regret that Talking Heads had to end," Frantz parries
warily, referring to the band's eventual split in 1991. "For the
life of me I can't figure out what went wrong."
"Actually," adds Weymouth, "Tom Tom Club held Talking Heads together,
because David had already left. He'd left in 1980." What, before
Remain in Light, before Stop Making Sense? "He would do interviews
by himself first so he could promote himself," Weymouth alleges.
"The three of us - myself, Chris and Jerry - were being interviewed
by this man from Czechoslovakia, and he said, 'What are you going
to do, now that David's left the band?' and we'd confront David
with things like this, and he'd neither deny them nor confirm them,
he'd just say nothing. He was always strange and defensive and eccentric.
"We finally got Brian [Eno] to come in," Weymouth says, without
missing a beat, "went down to Compass Point to record, and came
home. Then we had to take several months off because David wouldn't
let us write lyrics, but he couldn't come up with any." She proceeds
in this vein for a quarter of an hour, before her husband once again
attempts closure. "You know," he interrupts, "why don't we get back
to Tom Tom Club? Because that can be like a black hole," Frantz
observes without irony, but with every sign of weary familiarity.
The final 15 minutes of the interview are occupied with pleasantries
about the new record, as though her previous outburst had never
happened. This mix of garrulous bonhomie and impassioned point-scoring
is hardly unique to Tom Tom Club. In her ability one minute to spit
fire about her erstwhile collaborator, and the next to exude serene
contentment about continuing to make records, Weymouth is surely
no more or less contradictory than the rest of us. And when the
record is as fine as The Good, the Bad and the Funky, the occasional
black cloud obscuring the sun seems an acceptable price to pay.
As she sings on the new album: "Who feels it, knows it."
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