Clark Collis, Sunday September 28, 2003, The Observer
This Much I Know
David Byrne, musician, 51, New York
When asked my profession for a visa, or whatever, I usually put
'musician', 'musician/artist', or 'photographer'. Something like
that. It's pretty meaningless. I have a lot more fun with the tax
forms where they ask you for your position. I put 'Boss'. Or 'Emperor
for Life'.
I've also described myself as 'a smug pseudo-bohemian', which is
tongue-in-cheek. But there are days when that's exactly what I am.
One thing that would have surprised me when I was younger is that
sex can be better when you get older. The way that you get more
comfortable or relaxed. I'd have thought it was downhill from 18.
I'm still a little bit shy, but much less so than I used to be.
I used to be painfully shy. But my theory was that being a singer
was the perfect job for a shy person because it compensated for
my inability to communicate with other people.
If you're not a good cook, and I'm not, make an oven dish. They're
easy. I recommend a codfish casserole.
What I took away from the whole Talking Heads experience was the
idea that if you know the kinds of restrictions you have to work
within - budgetary restrictions, or creative restrictions or whatever
- that can be great, that can even be a spur to creativity. That
old idea of, 'Oh, I don't want anybody telling me what to do', or
'I want my creative freedom' - that's bullshit. What you need is
to be told clearly what the parameters are. Because, if you allow
them to do anything, most people will just waffle about.
The surprising things about fame came after. I was shocked at how
strongly people could get imprinted with one image of you. That
you were the guy in the big suit, or whatever.
But there are lots of nice parts about periods of success, as you
might expect. If you have an idea, people are much more willing
to say, 'Well, yeah, let's give it a shot.'
I'm on cordial terms with the rest of Talking Heads, more or less.
We've kind of got all these buffers: management or the record company
guys, which is a good thing - so that old animosities, if they flare
up, they're kind of kept in check.
I find that people are remarkably conservative about clothes. They
don't regard them as a means of personal expression. I think it's
seen more as a way to announce what tribe you belong to.
I regard myself as Scottish, to some extent. Although my family
and I left when I was really young, we'd go back for summer holidays
in the 50s and 60s. The film for which I've just done the soundtrack,
Young Adam, takes place there in the 50s, so I could kind of connect
with it. But the production people on the film weren't able to make
the town as black as it was then. I remember every building being
covered in soot.
I still have a British passport. It's kind of a point of pride.
Plus, there was no advantage to having an American passport. I could
vote in America. The only election I wasn't supposed to vote in
was the presidential one. But, as it turns out, they never double-check.
So I could vote in that one as well.
I tend to be suspicious of anybody that goes into politics. Especially
if somebody says, I'm doing this because I want to do something
that's good for people.
Doing the music tours, I travel with a bike that folds up. It means
I feel empowered. I'm not some stupid rock star stuck in a hotel
room out by the freeway overpass. I can get out my bike and ride
on that overpass!
I'm endlessly fascinated by the religious urge as it manifests
itself all over the world. But I don't go to church or to a temple.
Maybe that is odd. I think we're in a kind of crisis because we
don't believe but we know something's missing. And replacing it
with platitudes and values based on scientific logic or faith in
capitalism is just hopeless. Those are not things to base values
on.
I do envy those who have a more conventional lifestyle. Those fuckin'
happy people! Why do they deserve to be happy? I have to devalue
happiness because I haven't been able to achieve it so brainlessly
and effortlessly as others appear to have. So I have to lower its
commodity value and say that happiness is not all it's cracked up
to be. But, actually, surprisingly, I think I am a happy person.
I used to be more angst-ridden. It's not drugs. Leonard Cohen,
I think, said brain cells for depression are the ones that die out
first.
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